Обсуждение:Содом и Гоморра: различия между версиями
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{{ping|Миша Карелин}}, напоминаю, что ваша реакция ожидается. — [[У:Shamash|Shamash]] ([[ОУ:Shamash|обс.]]) 19:33, 20 января 2020 (UTC)
*То, что ваш вариант однобокий, и следовательно нарушает ВП:ВЕС, доказывает тот факт, что есть ''весьма авторитетные, не маргимальные'' источники, утверждающие о других трактовках этого отрывка Торры. Вы же здесь представили ''только'' наиболее консервативную точку зрения – это и есть не соблюдение ВП:ВЕС и ВП:НТЗ. А если вы не хотите прочитать тот раздел и увидеть как нормально пишут статьи с соблюдением ВЕС и НТЗ, то я приведу примеры таких АИ ниже. [[У:Миша Карелин|Миша Карелин]] ([[ОУ:Миша Карелин|обс.]]) 20:14, 20 января 2020 (UTC)
===Трактовки "Содома"===
*Rabbinic writings affirm that the Sodomites also committed economic crimes, blasphemy and bloodshed.<ref>{{cite book|title=A tale of two cities : Sodom and Gomorrah in the Old Testament, early Jewish and early Christian traditions|author=James Alfred Loader|year=1990|publisher=Peeters Publishers|page=28}}</ref>
*Other extrabiblical crimes committed by Sodom and Gomorrah included extortion on crossing a bridge/or swimming a river; harshly punishing victims for crimes that the perpetrator committed, forcing an assault victim to pay for the perpetrator's "bleeding" [https://www.chabad.org/parshah/article_cdo/aid/3930344/jewish/Sodom-and-Gomorrah-Cities-Destroyed-by-G-d.htm]
*Eliezer was reported to be a victim of such legally unjust conduct, after Sarah sent him to Sodom to report on Lot's welfare. The citizens also regularly tortured foreigners who sought lodging. They did this by providing the foreigners a standard-sized beds and if they saw that the foreigner was too short for the bed, they would forcibly stretch their limbs but if the foreigner was too tall, they would cut off their legs;<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/sodom-modern-sedom-and-gomorrah|title=Sodom (Modern Sedom) And Gomorrah|last=Gale|first=Thomson|date=2007|website=Encyclopedia.com|access-date=}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=https://books.google.com.au/books?id=Z9bfBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA92&lpg=PA92&dq=Shakrai+(%22liar%22),+Shakurai+(%22awful+liar%22),+Zayyafi+(%22forger%22),+and+Mazle+Dina+(%22perverter+of+justice%22)&source=bl&ots=8lZzEwr9Y4&sig=RVKJyfr-aXFYFzHmdqOONA3Cc7w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiH16TIjY_dAhUX62EKHYJ5ATwQ6AEwAXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=Shakrai%20(%22liar%22)%2C%20Shakurai%20(%22awful%20liar%22)%2C%20Zayyafi%20(%22forger%22)%2C%20and%20Mazle%20Dina%20(%22perverter%20of%20justice%22)&f=false|title=Sodomy: A History of a Christian Biblical Myth|last=Carden|first=Michael|date=|website=|access-date=}}</ref>
*According to the Book of Jasher, Paltith, one of Lot's daughters, was burnt alive (in some versions, on a pyre) for giving a poor man bread.<ref>[http://jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/10122-lot Jewish encyclopedia Lot]</ref>
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_D._Levenson Jon D. Levenson] views a rabbinic tradition described in the Mishnah as postulating that the sin of Sodom was a violation of conventional hospitality in addition to homosexual conduct, describing Sodom's lack of generosity with the saying, "What is mine is mine; what is yours is yours" (''m. Avot'' 5.10).<ref>{{cite book|title=The Jewish Study Bible|url=https://archive.org/details/isbn_9780195297515|url-access=registration|date=2004|publisher=Oxford University Press|editor-last1=Berlin|editor-first1=Adele|editor-last2=Brettler|editor-first2=Marc Zvi|editor-last3=Fishbane|editor-first3=Michael|isbn=978-0195297515|page=[https://archive.org/details/isbn_9780195297515/page/41 41]}}</ref>
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rictor_Norton Rictor Norton] (a PhD, just like Jeffrey Siker) views classical Jewish texts as stressing the cruelty and lack of hospitality of the inhabitants of Sodom to the "stranger".<ref name="The Inhospitable Sodomites">{{cite web|url=http://rictornorton.co.uk/homopho2.htm|title=The Inhospitable Sodomites|publisher=Rictornorton.co.uk|accessdate=2013-04-25}}</ref>
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Michaelson Jay Michaelson] (he is rabbi) proposes a reading of the story of Sodom that emphasizes the violation of hospitality as well as the violence of the Sodomites. "Homosexual rape is the way in which they violate hospitality—not the essence of their transgression. Reading the story of Sodom as being about homosexuality is like reading the story of an ax murderer as being about an ax."<ref>{{cite book|last=Michaelson|first=Jay|title=God Vs. Gay? The Religious Case for Equality|year=2011|publisher=Beacon Press|location=Boston|isbn=9780807001592|pages=[https://archive.org/details/godvsgayreligiou00mich/page/68 68–69]|url=https://archive.org/details/godvsgayreligiou00mich/page/68}}</ref>
*Two areas of contention have arisen in modern Christian scholarship concerning the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.<ref name="Wenham">{{cite web|url=http://www.biblicalstudies.org.uk/article_attitude_wenham.html|title="The Old Testament Attitude to Homosexuality", ''Expository Times'' 102 (1991): 259–363|publisher=Biblicalstudies.org.uk|accessdate=2013-04-25}}</ref><ref name="Boswell">{{cite book|last=Boswell|first=John|authorlink=John Boswell|title=Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality|url=https://archive.org/details/christianitysoci00bosw|url-access=registration|location=Chicago|publisher=University of Chicago Press|year=1980|page=[https://archive.org/details/christianitysoci00bosw/page/94 94]}}</ref>
#Whether the violent mob surrounding Lot's house were demanding to engage in sexual violence against Lot's guests.
#Whether it was homosexuality or another transgression, such as the act of inhospitability towards visitors, that was the principal reason for God's destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.
*Those who favor the non-sexual interpretation argue against a denotation of sexual behavior in this context, noting that while the Hebrew word for "know" appears over 900 times in the Hebrew Scriptures, only 1% (13–14 times)<ref name="The Inhospitable Sodomites" /> of those references are clearly used as a euphemism for realizing sexual intimacy.<ref>{{cite book|first=Rogers|last=Jack Bartlet|title=Jesus, the Bible, and Homosexuality: Explode the myths, heal the church|publisher=John Knox Press|year=2006|location=Louisville, Kentucky|page=139}}</ref> Instead, those who hold to this interpretation see the demand to know as demanding the right to interrogate the strangers.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070928154135/http://www.neednotfret.com/content/view/124/89/ Kevin L. Howard. THE OLD TESTAMENT AND HOMOSEXUALITY]</ref>
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