Обсуждение:Бейлики Джаник

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Не могли бы вы пояснить, почему этих байликов звали Джаником? Georgiano (обс.) 06:34, 23 апреля 2021 (UTC)

Не могли бы вы вкратце упомянуть и об этом Удивленный1?

• Anthony Bryer, Greeks and Türkmens: The Pontic Exception, p. 127-128

West Pontos is called Canik, a puzzling name which is not geographical. Elsewhere I have attempted to show that the word is derived from the horsemen Tzannoi, who had vanished before the fourteenth century. But the Laz call themselves 'Chani,' and the peoples of the coast, Greek and 'Chani,' were, and are, popularly called 'Lazoi.' Hence Canik means the Pontos, or, more particularly, west Pontos in which the Turkmen emirates emerged. Like the term 'Rum,' it indicated a Christian land which had (here inconclusively) passed into Muslim hands.47 It had a secondary, economic, meaning, for Canik seems also to have served as a synonym for kisla, winter pasture.48 For some purposes Canik was still part of the empire of Trebizond. In the capital his subjects described their ruler as Grand Komnenos and Turks and Armenians would call him tekfur.49 But in west Pontos the Grand Komnenos became, in ibn Saddad's term, melik of Canik. 5o In this respect, and in this area alone, al Umari is right in concluding his important description of the empire of Trebizond with the observation that it resembled the Turkish principalities which surrounded it; indeed it was one.51 These propositions must be illustrated in detail.

Georgiano (обс.) 15:21, 12 мая 2021 (UTC)

• У меня Бриер есть, я видел этот кусок. Естественно, рано или поздно и о названии напишу.
  Просто пока разбираюсь с другими вещами.
  Извините, я в апреле пропустил ваш вопрос почему-то и потому не ответил... Зануда 16:38, 12 мая 2021 (UTC)